Please provide PPA for Ubuntu for users to update/install.

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Please provide PPA for Ubuntu for users to update/install.

Postby Jon_Don » 14. January 2020 16:35

Manual installation is time-consuming and not very modern.

I think it would be great if there is an official approach to this issue.

It will be very userfriendly things to do.

I wonder why there is still no PPA available!? (I mean we are in 2020, and still, have to worry about the software update.)
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Re: Please provide PPA for Ubuntu for users to update/instal

Postby nemesis » 14. January 2020 19:23

XAMPP is for development, not for production use!
https://www.apachefriends.org/about.html under the point warranty:
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose.

When someone has the time and knowledge to do it, he is free to provide an PPA.
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Re: Please provide PPA for Ubuntu for users to update/instal

Postby Nobbie » 14. January 2020 20:43

Jon_Don wrote:I wonder why there is still no PPA available!? (I mean we are in 2020, and still, have to worry about the software update.)


Its due to your bad knowledge. Ubuntu/Debian have been asked to import Xampp into their Repository many years ago, but they refused. These distributions have their own PPAs and repositorys, and they have their own Apache/PHP/MySQL packages. Last not least, Xampp is not only designed for Debian style repositories, its designed to run on EVERY distribution (also MX Linux, Arch Linux, OPenSuSE etc. which do not base on PPA repositories).

Do you know any other software distributions which can be installed on ALL distributions like Xampp?

P.S.: You already wrote an equally stupid post a few months ago "Why i don't like/perfer XAMPP?", when will you finally understand that Xampp was NOT only made for Ubuntu? Are YOU really that stupid?
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Re: Please provide PPA for Ubuntu for users to update/instal

Postby Jon_Don » 19. January 2020 08:24

@nobbie

What about Xampp coming in the APT repository?

Coming into the APT repository will solve almost 80% of the Linux user.

Is it that hard?!
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Re: Please provide PPA for Ubuntu for users to update/instal

Postby Altrea » 19. January 2020 09:14

Yes it is that hard.

Writing an update procedure for a flexible software like Apache is tough enough. The xampp developers would need to do do this for all components with all of their dependencies for each version that will be released.

So, if you want to have Webserver software installed from any software manager please install and configure all of the single software by yourself. Xampp will not do that for you.
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Re: Please provide PPA for Ubuntu for users to update/instal

Postby Nobbie » 20. January 2020 11:56

Jon_Don wrote:Coming into the APT repository will solve almost 80% of the Linux user.

Is it that hard?!


1) There is no "the APT" repository, instead linux distributions mostly are based on repositories and some of the distributions are using APT. You need to integrate Xampp into the repository of a distribution in order to install it properly and solving all dependencies. And as i already said, Ubuntu team has been asked to put Xampp into their repository, but they refused. Do you want to kill them or what will you do about that?

Of course Bitnami could put Xampp into their own APT repository, and Users may simply install Xampp from that APT repo, but actually that gains NOTHING, as it does not resolve any dependency, because it is not part of the Ubuntu repository. That is totally useless.

And even if you integrate Xampp into Ubuntu's repository, you cannot use that repository for Zorin for example. Zorin has its own repository, with different dependencies, so have to put Xampp also into Zorins repository, you cannot install Zorin programs from the Ubuntu repository. Same for mostly all other distributions, you have to integrate Xampp into THEIR repository as well.

2) Even if you succeed and can provide APT repositories including Xampp, that would BY FAR not help 80% of all linux users. As you can see on distrowatch, Ubuntu based installations using APT repositories are only a small minority. Already the two most installed distributions (MX Linux, Manjaro), which arent based on APT repos, are 5 times as many as Ubuntu installations. So even if you succeed to provide an APT based installation, you would offer it only to less than 20% linux users. How disappointing, isnt it?!

3) with the current "windows-like" setup, running an executable installation file, Bitnami reaches 100% linux users.
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