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XAMPP & ThreadStackSize

PostPosted: 10. December 2014 15:09
by mbrett5062
This is not a help request rather a suggestion open for discussion.

I have recently had an issue using a new module on Processwire CMS, processing of a rather large regex kept closing down the child process. After some investigation I came across this thread on stackoverflow.

This problem happens more often on Windows platform, because of smaller Apache's default stack size. There is 1 MB default stack size on Windows, unlike 8 MB on Unix/Linux platforms. It could be a reason, why some for example PHP scripts works properly on Linux, but cause crash of Apache on Windows.

Furthermore, the crash is silent (segmentation fault), there is no error message, Apache just stops responding and the child process is restarted. Browser gets no data and renders a blank page, so it's a bit difficult to decide what's wrong.

It's a common problem when working with long regular expressions in PHP.

There is one notice in Apache's error log only, which tells, that child process crashed:

Parent: child process exited with status 3221225725 -- Restarting

The best way to alter the Apache's stack size is using the ThreadStackSize directive in the Apache's configuration file. There is a description of the ThreadStackSize directive in Apache's documentation:

So increase of the Apache's stack size on Windows might looks like this:

<IfModule mpm_winnt_module> ThreadStackSize 8388608 </IfModule>

These lines should be put in the Apache's configuration file. For simplicity, you could put it to httpd.conf. Or better (but not necessary), put it to httpd-mpm.conf file and in httpd.conf uncomment this line:

Include conf/extra/httpd-mpm.conf

It sets Apache's stack size to 8 MB, so it's the same as a default value on Linux.

And don't forget to restart Apache! :)

My suggestion is that ThreadStackSize change is made by default for Windows installation and httpd-mpm.conf is included by default for Windows.

Does anyone know of a reason this should not happen (Performance, other issues etc...)?

Re: XAMPP & ThreadStackSize

PostPosted: 10. December 2014 15:27
by Altrea
mbrett5062 wrote:Does anyone know of a reason this should not happen (Performance, other issues etc...)?

Yes: wrote:[...]
This type of adjustment is necessary only if the provider of the third-party module specifies that it is required, or if diagnosis of an Apache httpd crash indicates that the thread stack size was too small.

Most applications run very well with the default value of this setting, so i cannot recommend a general increase of this value

Re: XAMPP & ThreadStackSize

PostPosted: 10. December 2014 20:50
by gsmith
Besides, Apache on Windows defaults to 64 threads, multiply that by 8MB and you can see why.