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feature request

PostPosted: 13. February 2014 23:38
by dan_01
hello

thank you for creating xampp project, i am using it for a long time (ver 1.6.3a);
i would like a feature request pretty pretty pls: can you drop the need for VC++ redistributable package
not to brag or any.. but M$ tend to get bloated in high and useless demands.. besides i just like unzip and run
and no additional nag

ty for your time; cius ;)

ps: xpsp3 here

Re: feature request

PostPosted: 13. February 2014 23:53
by Nobbie
dan_01 wrote:i would like a feature request pretty pretty pls: can you drop the need for VC++ redistributable package


Yes of course. There is a very simple solution for that (and obviously it fits perfectly to your problems about Microsoft): dont use WIndows! Use Linux and be happy!

Isn't that an easy solution? And even better: it is free! So simply drop Windows and switch to Linux - nothing easier than that!

Re: feature request

PostPosted: 14. February 2014 06:15
by Altrea
Hi dan_01,

dan_01 wrote:can you drop the need for VC++ redistributable package

Sorry, that is not possible for Windows Systems. Windows don't brings it's own VC runtime so you would not be able to run any VC compiled programs.

best wishes,
Altrea

P.S.: This is not a feature request, that's a dependency drop request :D

Re: feature request

PostPosted: 14. February 2014 09:11
by dan_01
good morning.. over here..

@Nobbie - i am using linux in fact ub10.10 (dont like unity) i run vbox xpsp3 for portable xampp .. i got used to knowing install paths.. and all in win environment.. im loking for the same thing in linux but xampp linux needs to be installed (root stuff and all).. and i doubt it would have so clean paths.. i mean it will be all over the place.. maybe xampp linux portable.. wishing well.. wishing tell ;)
ps: i'we thought at straight install lamp using aptitude.. but i tend to use portable..all in 1 place apps

@Altrea - maybe compile using mingw? any other tool not requiring dependencies and free(i know vc++ redistributable is free.. but still..) ..its a free open source project after all.. why the need for dependencies?

thats about all
have a nice day ;)

Re: feature request

PostPosted: 14. February 2014 09:52
by Altrea
relating mingW:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/platform/win_compiling.html wrote:Only the Microsoft compiler tool chain is actively supported by the active httpd contributors. Although the project regularly accepts patches to ensure MinGW and other alternative builds work and improve upon them, they are not actively maintained and are often broken in the course of normal development.


https://wiki.php.net/internals/windows/stepbystepbuild wrote:PHP officially supports building with Microsoft's Visual C++ compilers. MinGW and other compilers are NOT supported or even known to work. For more information and how to get the compiler see the supported versions. The following VC versions are supported:
  • Visual C++ 6.0 for PHP 5.2
  • Visual C++ 9.0 (Visual Studio 2008) for PHP 5.3 and 5.4. You can use the Express versions as well.
  • Visual C++ 11.0 (Visual Studio 2012) for PHP 5.5+. You can use the Express versions as well.


Situation for extensions, modules and addons especially from third party is even more bad.

Re: feature request

PostPosted: 14. February 2014 14:02
by dan_01
@Altrea

yeap.. dependencies all over; too bad, too sad;
seems M$ is grabbing win branch of apache/php :) maybe a hostile takeover later :d
should they drop IIS for a better service
whell.. il go lindows till i get more confident with linux; hopping for a portable linux xampp though

ty again for your time;
gl

Re: feature request

PostPosted: 14. February 2014 14:13
by Nobbie
dan_01 wrote:and i doubt it would have so clean paths.. i mean it will be all over the place..


A simple test would have shown you, that you "doubt" wrong. Xampp comes extremely clean in one path and no dependencies - simply /opt/lampp.It is NOT installed, it is simply "unpacked". Meanwhile (as Bitname overtook Xampp) it is coming with an installer, but previously there was only one gzipped tar. Nothing else, and everything is in /opt/lampp.

So what do you mean with "it will be all over the place"??

Re: feature request

PostPosted: 14. February 2014 14:46
by dan_01
@Nobbie

i got chills on my back when i sow installer, root password.. and thought as a usual http/mysql/etc pack.. will bring dependencies from the net and install them all over.. as in linux world;

ty for info