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XAMPP and new Bitnami installs

PostPosted: 13. December 2013 21:15
by apache-pogo
I've been using XAMPP for years and really think it is the best and easiest LAMP/WAMP, etc. system to get up and running. I have installed multiple apps under XAMPP by downloading them from the developer's site, unpacking, and moving them into a sub-folder under htdocs.

XAMPP's move to using Bitnami caught me by surprise. :shock: I recently downloaded v1.8.3 of XAMPP for Windows and installed it as usual. Then I noticed the additional information on the XAMPP localhost startup page about downloading what I thought were additional apps from Bitmani. I followed the links and downloaded MediaWiki from Bitnami. I ran the install which ran flawlessly, and MediaWiki appeared at localhost. It looked like all was well.

Later when I went to the XAMPP control panel and tried to restart Apache, I found that Bitnami had installed a second copy of XAMPP with MediaWiki. :roll: The two copies were both contending for Port 80. Now I would have assumed that this special version of Bitnami/MediaWiki would have looked for an existing installation of XAMPP and install it there, but instead it ignored the existing version and proceeded to install it's own copy.

To me the power of XAMPP was the fact that multiple apps could be installed on one XAMPP server. Each app could then be accessed by specifying a localhost subdirectory (e.g., localhost/mediawiki, or localhost/subversion, or localhost/trac, etc.

I know there are workarounds. I can probably drag the MediaWikw folder from the Bitnami installation into my original XAMPP installation and fix up the links. But that's not the point. Logically it seems that Bitnami should add MediaWiki to the existing server rather than make a second copy. This would alleviate the conflict with port 80 which occurs when two copies of XAMPP are running.

These are just my observations as a long time user of XAMPP...

Re: XAMPP and new Bitnami installs

PostPosted: 13. December 2013 22:50
by Altrea
I can't reproduce your issue.

The MediaWiki will ask (search and preset but editable) for the XAMPP installation path and use the choosen one.
And the installer will stop and restart Apache because it is doing configuration changes in Apaches httpd.conf
But the Mediawiki Bitnami installer will not contain a XAMPP package (technically impossible to contain a 900MB package in a 20MB Installer).

Re: XAMPP and new Bitnami installs

PostPosted: 14. December 2013 00:15
by apache-pogo
I must have done something really wrong in going from the new XAMPP install to installing Bitnami MediaWiki then.
The Bitnami version of MediaWiki that I installed produced a 480 MB folder as below:
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 Directory of C:\BitNami\mediawiki-1.21.3-0
<DIR>          .
<DIR>          ..
<DIR>          apache2
<DIR>          apps
<DIR>          imagemagick
<DIR>          img
<DIR>          licenses
<DIR>          mysql
<DIR>          php
<DIR>          scripts
<DIR>          sqlite
           171 use_mediawiki.bat
           951 properties.ini
         3,456 serviceinstall.bat
         4,263 servicerun.bat
         6,271 changelog.txt
        12,362 README.txt
       132,606 uninstall.dat
     2,823,472 manager-windows.exe
     6,790,830 uninstall.exe

Your response indicates that the installer should be about 20MB. I didn't see the prompts asking for the XAMPP path, so the installer I downloaded must be incorrect. I'll have to go back and try this whole thing again. I'll post the results of my retry to this thread when done.
Thanks for looking at this post.

Re: XAMPP and new Bitnami installs

PostPosted: 14. December 2013 02:56
by Altrea
The bitnami installers for XAMPP can be found here:
http://bitnami.com/stack/xampp

Re: XAMPP and new Bitnami installs

PostPosted: 16. December 2013 19:52
by apache-pogo
My apologies to XAMPP for posting this thread in the first place. A major "brain fart" on my part... Over the weekend I did the re-install of the correct Media-wiki and it worked perfect and as one would expect it to. My screw-up was that I had two copies of Media-wiki in my download folder. Unfortunately I wasn't paying attention and picked the free-standing Bitnami version which installed a second WAMP plus Media-wiki. I should have noticed that file was ~480MB instead of the correct and much smaller version. Again my apologies. :oops:

I like the concept your group is pursuing. Like I said earlier I have used XAMPP (ApacheFriends) for many years and found it easy to use and setup. If you are considering adding to you line of XAMPP/Bitnami installers I hope that you will consider Trac and Redmine in the near future. Now excuse me while I'll go "eat some humble pie" ...