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Re: Switch to MariaDB?? When planned?

PostPosted: 17. September 2013 09:37
by Lucas Malor
@Nobbie: I feel free to say my pertinent opinion in a public forum about a thread. You are free to not read my posts. And, for the record, I use Linux on my pc, but sometimes I work as sysop "newbie", so I can find windows on the pc.

Re: Switch to MariaDB?? When planned?

PostPosted: 17. September 2013 15:09
by Altrea
Lucas Malor wrote:@Nobbie: I feel free to say my pertinent opinion in a public forum about a thread. You are free to not read my posts.

Nobbie is free to respond to your posts and write down his own opinion in public too.
If this discussion will drift to a personally offtopic area i will close this topic, so please stay ontopic and factual.
Thank you.

Re: Switch to MariaDB?? When planned?

PostPosted: 18. September 2013 00:53
by Lucas Malor
From when "don't bother me" is an opinion? Since if Nobbie says me "if you don't like xampp and windows don't use it" is "don't bother me". If this is an opinion, my previous post is an "opinion" too, since I said "if you don't like my posts don't read them". But they are not opinions, they are provocation and counter-provocation.

In my opinion it's not an opinion saying "you must not have opinions" (translation of "Xampp is Xampp and not i would like to have this and that").

Anyway, if someone is interested in my stupid opinions, if xampp will make more easy upgrading or changing of its components, it could become a sort of windows "repo" for server softwares.

Re: Switch to MariaDB?? When planned?

PostPosted: 18. September 2013 05:12
by Altrea
Jos_38 wrote:Migration made easy, Windows
[...]

Thank you very much for providing this guide.
I have made a guide of integrating MariaDB into XAMPP (the XAMPP way) end of June too. Maybe you want to take a look at it, test it or post some thoughts to it.
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=57054&p=211509#p211509

Jos_38 wrote:if Google think MariaDB is worth a change - I would think even Xampp should consider...

I think Google has some own reasons for that switch which are not 1to1 compareable with XAMPP.
The XAMPP developers discuss many aspects for future XAMPP versions. Be sure MariaDB is one topic but not the only one.

Re: Switch to MariaDB?? When planned?

PostPosted: 18. September 2013 05:25
by Altrea
Lucas Malor wrote:Since if Nobbie says me "if you don't like xampp and windows don't use it" is "don't bother me". If this is an opinion, my previous post is an "opinion" too

Nobbie just said that XAMPP is XAMPP is XAMPP. XAMPP has it's own philosophy and focus on some own aspects other webserver stacks maybe don't provide.
XAMPP can't fit evrybodys needs and don't need to because there are many many alternative webserver stacks available for free.

Lucas Malor wrote:But they are not opinions, they are provocation and counter-provocation.

No more (counter-)provocation of anybody here. Thats the last time i will say that.

Re: Switch to MariaDB?? When planned?

PostPosted: 18. September 2013 10:29
by Nobbie
Lucas Malor wrote:In my opinion it's not an opinion saying "you must not have opinions" (translation of "Xampp is Xampp and not i would like to have this and that").


You got it simply wrong.

Xampp is Xampp and it is the goal of Xampp to provide a webserver distribution which comes as close as possible to the (by far) most used implemantation of webhosting servers, which especially means, that it provides MySQL.

The idea of Xampp is a development plattform which fits to the "standard" environment Apache/PHP/MySQL. It is NOT the idea to provide the "best" SQL plattform or "best" Webserver or "best" CGI Language.

It is meant for people who want to develop and to test(!) their projects at home with an infrastructure which is (hopefully) identically to the infrastructure, which is implemented on their webspace.

Is this to hard to understand? Each distribution (as well linux distributions) have certain goals, and this is the goal of Xampp, and therefore it is completely useless and simply wrong to replace MySQL by MariaDB.

Of course you are encouraged to build your own webserver distribution, which includes MariaDB and spread it over the world. But Xampp is Xampp and remains Xampp, and that means, it delivers MySQL and not MariaDB and there are no plans to switch over.

Re: Switch to MariaDB?? When planned?

PostPosted: 18. September 2013 15:11
by Lucas Malor
Nobbie wrote:the goal of Xampp to provide a webserver distribution which comes as close as possible to the (by far) most used implementation of webhosting servers, which especially means, that it provides MySQL.

Many webservers offer also other server softwares / language interpreters / databases. And the support of other servers / languages / dbs in Xampp was asked to users as Altrea previously wrote.

Nobbie wrote:The idea of Xampp [...] is NOT the idea to provide the "best" SQL plattform or "best" Webserver or "best" CGI Language.

Neither me. I'm not a MySQL or MariaDB fan. I'm suggesting to add support for MariaDB too because, even if it was not so much voted, it's very close to MySQL and it will be more simple to support.

Nobbie wrote:Is this to hard to understand?

No provocations please, or Altrea scolds me :mrgreen: